Can you recommend a new/recertified compressor? Self-install?

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BigKetchup

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So my compressor died and now the dealership wants $4k to reinstall a new one. I'd rather get a recertified compressor instead and install it myself if possible. Has anyone had experience doing this?

I drive a 2018 i3 BEV.
 
Currently I'm facing a problem with the A/C of my 2018 i3 94 Ah (with heat pump), too. It does not cool. Because I'm using the A/C "once a year", a valve might be stuck. Now I've bought a OBDII BT device and the Bimmerlink App, once it is delivered I try to find out which component is faulty. However, in your case, what makes you confident that the compressor is faulty?
 
The AC system on the i3 I beleive works every day all year around, it's part of the cooling/heating system for the battery pack
 
The AC system on the i3 I beleive works every day all year around, it's part of the cooling/heating system for the battery pack
I dont't think so, the AC cools only when cooling is needed and you will notice. Batterypacks don't heat up that easily in normal conditions. The pack also does not get heated (not by the AC), only when preconditioning in winter.
 
The AC system on the i3 I beleive works every day all year around, it's part of the cooling/heating system for the battery pack
I have started using the MI3 app with a bluetooth dongle to take a look at my battery cell temperatures this summer when temps hit 100 deg F. I wish I could place an amp meter around the compressor supply wire to measure amperage to see when it engages automatically vs engaged by me.

But Dutch i3 is right it only turns on when needed. Maybe you meant to say it's available to cool all year round, when needed.
 
I pe-emptively swapped out the AC compressor on my 2014 BEV last year, I found an independent BMW guy to do the install for me.

I watched the process, it didn't seem very complicated, but the coolant in the system has special needs! There is an oil that needs to be added and a knowledgable mechanic with the right gear and supplies might be the best way to do it.

I have done my share of complicated stuff on old cars in the past, but the more I read about the various things to take into account on this car, I decided to let an experienced hand take care of it.

I found the part at getBMWparts for about $1500 USD and the mechanic charged me $360 for the work (3 hrs @ $120.hr). less than $2000 USD all in.
 
Currently I'm facing a problem with the A/C of my 2018 i3 94 Ah (with heat pump), too. It does not cool. Because I'm using the A/C "once a year", a valve might be stuck. Now I've bought a OBDII BT device and the Bimmerlink App, once it is delivered I try to find out which component is faulty. However, in your case, what makes you confident that the compressor is faulty?
could you provide update of the case please ?
My I3 is not heating or producing cold, error in shutoff valve 4 for the heat pump apprear periodically, but the system procedure for it says - if you hear the sound of the valve, then it is working :( The mechanic that look at the car is experianced with BMW I3, but not with the heatpump system itself.
I'm waiting next week this valve to be replaced and to see will this solve the issue.
 
It was possible to remove all errors from the malfunction storage except one: AC underfilling. I checked the system pressure which should be 89 psi @ 80 F with R1234yF when AC is OFF, but was only 62 psi. So the underfilling is confirmed.
 
It was possible to remove all errors from the malfunction storage except one: AC underfilling. I checked the system pressure which should be 89 psi @ 80 F with R1234yF when AC is OFF, but was only 62 psi. So the underfilling is confirmed
It was possible to remove all errors from the malfunction storage except one: AC underfilling. I checked the system pressure which should be 89 psi @ 80 F with R1234yF when AC is OFF, but was only 62 psi. So the underfilling is confirmed.
Cooling back to normal?
 
Found a shop where they offered me to remove the remaining R1234yF and Sanden SP-A2 compressor oil, then vacuum the circuit and refill again. But in the quotation they offered PAG-46 as compressor oil. Which is much cheaper as the SP-A2, but it's forbidden to use it in the i3. So I have to go back to them and negotiate the price respectively if they would accept the SP-A2 as BFE. So the AC is this inop
 
I dont't think so, the AC cools only when cooling is needed and you will notice. Batterypacks don't heat up that easily in normal conditions. The pack also does not get heated (not by the AC), only when preconditioning in winter.
The battery pack warms up easily to 25c and then to max 40c if a high load. The AC refrigerant circuit only cools that is true - but the heating is caused by withdrawing charge - the heater wires do work up to 10c for preconditioning. The main problem is keeping the cells cool during use and charging. I.e. in the 25c range instead of 40c.

It’s a shared circuit.
 

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could you provide update of the case please ?
My I3 is not heating or producing cold, error in shutoff valve 4 for the heat pump apprear periodically, but the system procedure for it says - if you hear the sound of the valve, then it is working :( The mechanic that look at the car is experianced with BMW I3, but not with the heatpump system itself.
I'm waiting next week this valve to be replaced and to see will this solve the issue.
update to the issue of my car I3 BEV 2019 : After replacing Refrigerant Shut-Off Valve 4 (part number 64119292573) the air conditioner works normally.
It was added 50 ml freon type 1234YF, I own the car for 2 years and this is the first maintanance of the air cond.



 
My a/c compressor failed about 2 months after I purchased my 2016 i3 Rex. This was July of this year - 2024 - year of the dragon. It was new to me, I didn't think twice about a bit of compressor noise when the a/c was blowing fantastically cold air. Eventually you could hear the compressor noticeable when charging the car - my concerns were alleviated by reading about how the a/c system works to cool the battery. But it got louder. And it got louder. And it was 100 degrees outside. And then one day there was no more wonderful cold air.

I got these codes:
Integrated automatic heating / air conditioning system
2 errors
801252: eKMV: internal component error
8013F6: Function test eKMV (OBD)

After a lot of crying, research, stress eating and alcohol consumption while researching, I decided to order a salvaged i3 compressor. This should have been a mistake, but my luck level is huge. You should just by a refurb. I would say buy a new OEM compressor from rockauto, but they have been out for a while now. They were selling them new at $900. I bought one on eBay described as pulled from a crashed car with front end damage. They warned that perhaps it had contamination from condersor damage. It was $150 so I bought it anyway. I have a gambling problem, as you already knew from my purchase of an 8 year old i3.

I also bought this overpriced compressor oil because it is the only one that exists that is actually safe for HV compressors. (the only one I could find - if you look at the Mahle data sheets, you'll find that many other oils people suggest are not approved due to conductivity):
A/C Compressor Oil (PAO 68 AA1 500Ml) - Mahle Behr 351214031

I also bought a cheap a/c flush bottle and 32 ounces of flush, which is way too expensive.

I had the a/c evacuated by some professional stranger that you should totally do legally.

You should also have a cheap set of compatible a/c guages and an a/c vacuum.

EDIT TO ADD WARNING: I forgot to mention, there is a HV disconnect plug in the frunk you need to pull before you get under the car to work on this. You can then verify HV is off by trying to turn the car on. I want to say you should then at least disconnect the negative from the 12V battery - I don't remember if I did this. You should watch several youtube videos before attempting.

I removed the compressor, which is doable with regular socket wrenches, crescent wrenches, and a torx socket set if I remember all correctly. Also detach the a/c lines from where they enter the battery structure.

I removed the front passenger wheel, where you will find 3 a/c lines that run all the way from the back (low side, high side, and battery) to a connection block. If you detach these lines from the connection block, you can then backflush those lines. These were the only lines I flushed. I focused on the line that connects to the high pressure side of the compressor (the output). On my i3, there is what I assume is a filter on that line (thank goodness for that). I assume this because a LOT of metallic bits and pieces came out immediately when I flushed this line. The other lines did not have noticable chunks. This gave me hope that the destroyed compressor chunks with primarily stuck in that filter. I now think this, while saving the system over all is what led to the compressor failure. As this filter clogs from normal wear, the pressure is stuck more and more in the high side of the compressor, stressing it until it finally fails catastrophically. Perhaps flushing this line could have prevented the failure. I don't know, just a guess. To make sure these lines were dry of flush goo, I tooka shopvac to the back of the car and suctioned from that side of the lines for a few minutes each. Don't skip this. There was more crap in there.

I took the new compressor, drained whatever oil was in it, added expensive oil, sloshed it around, and drained that. I then added a very carefully measured bottom few lines of cheap plastic cup worth of the expensive oil (I saw this measurement technique in a Russian? compressor refurbishing youtube video). I installed the compressor. Reattached a/c lines, put a vacuum on the system, then attempted to charge with r134a. My 2016 specifies it on the sticker. The compressors used appear to be compatible with r134a and r1234xyz or whatever the new expensive gas is.

The compressor did not turn on. I cried some, and cleared codes, and cried some more when service light came back. Then I check codes and they were different:
Integrated automatic heating / air conditioning system
2 errors
801219: eKMV: Power reduction due to overtemperature converter
8013CF: eKMV: OBD HV voltage sensor above the valid range of values

This sounded different. This sounded like a power problem. Well, the compressors for this car have two major componets that you can easily take apart: the power block where the HV plugs in; and the compressor block where the a/c lines attach. It turns out you can unbolt the compressor, remove the power block without opening the refrigerant system, attach the old power block from your failed compressor, creating a frankenstein compressor from 2 different model years of the same compressor that failed, rebolt it, and try again.

I then turned the i3 on, and the compressor kicked on trying to suck freon, which was still attached from the previous attempt. I fed it approximately the rightish amount of r134a as indicated by a sticker somewhere, and the a/c has been perfect since. I live in daily fear of it failing again, have stress dreams about it, and carefully listen to every noise it makes everytime my wife drives away in it. But I feel like I accomplished something worth $4000 for about $300.

I took this slow with lots of breaks to think about what I was going to screw up, and it was probably two 8 hour days of work. To do this yourself, you should have some experience with charging a/c systems as you will likely be playing roulette with a $1000 compressor. You should probably also replace the condesor and expansion valves and stuff as indicated by the kits on ebay....but meh, that looked like way to much work.

If you need any clarification/pictures let me know and I will attempt to provide it.
 
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My a/c compressor failed about 2 months after I purchased my 2016 i3 Rex. This was July of this year - 2024 - year of the dragon. It was new to me, I didn't think twice about a bit of compressor noise when the a/c was blowing fantastically cold air. Eventually you could hear the compressor noticeable when charging the car - my concerns were alleviated by reading about how the a/c system works to cool the battery. But it got louder. And it got louder. And it was 100 degrees outside. And then one day there was no more wonderful cold air.

I got these codes:
Integrated automatic heating / air conditioning system
2 errors
801252: eKMV: internal component error
8013F6: Function test eKMV (OBD)

After a lot of crying, research, stress eating and alcohol consumption while researching, I decided to order a salvaged i3 compressor. This should have been a mistake, but my luck level is huge. You should just by a refurb. I would say buy a new OEM compressor from rockauto, but they have been out for a while now. They were selling them new at $900. I bought one on eBay described as pulled from a crashed car with front end damage. They warned that perhaps it had contamination from condersor damage. It was $150 so I bought it anyway. I have a gambling problem, as you already knew from my purchase of an 8 year old i3.

I also bought this overpriced compressor oil because it is the only one that exists that is actually safe for HV compressors. (the only one I could find - if you look at the Mahle data sheets, you'll find that many other oils people suggest are not approved due to conductivity):
A/C Compressor Oil (PAO 68 AA1 500Ml) - Mahle Behr 351214031

I also bought a cheap a/c flush bottle and 32 ounces of flush, which is way too expensive.

I had the a/c evacuated by some professional stranger that you should totally do legally.

You should also have a cheap set of compatible a/c guages and an a/c vacuum.

I removed the compressor, which is doable with regular socket wrenches, crescent wrenches, and a torx socket set if I remember all correctly. Also detach the a/c lines from where they enter the battery structure.

I removed the front passenger wheel, where you will find 3 a/c lines that run all the way from the back (low side, high side, and battery) to a connection block. If you detach these lines from the connection block, you can then backflush those lines. These were the only lines I flushed. I focused on the line that connects to the high pressure side of the compressor (the output). On my i3, there is what I assume is a filter on that line (thank goodness for that). I assume this because a LOT of metallic bits and pieces came out immediately when I flushed this line. The other lines did not have noticable chunks. This gave me hope that the destroyed compressor chunks with primarily stuck in that filter. I now think this, while saving the system over all is what led to the compressor failure. As this filter clogs from normal wear, the pressure is stuck more and more in the high side of the compressor, stressing it until it finally fails catastrophically. Perhaps flushing this line could have prevented the failure. I don't know, just a guess. To make sure these lines were dry of flush goo, I tooka shopvac to the back of the car and suctioned from that side of the lines for a few minutes each. Don't skip this. There was more crap in there.

I took the new compressor, drained whatever oil was in it, added expensive oil, sloshed it around, and drained that. I then added a very carefully measured bottom few lines of cheap plastic cup worth of the expensive oil (I saw this measurement technique in a Russian? compressor refurbishing youtube video). I installed the compressor. Reattached a/c lines, put a vacuum on the system, then attempted to charge with r134a. My 2016 specifies it on the sticker. The compressors used appear to be compatible with r134a and r1234xyz or whatever the new expensive gas is.

The compressor did not turn on. I cried some, and cleared codes, and cried some more when service light came back. Then I check codes and they were different:
Integrated automatic heating / air conditioning system
2 errors
801219: eKMV: Power reduction due to overtemperature converter
8013CF: eKMV: OBD HV voltage sensor above the valid range of values

This sounded different. This sounded like a power problem. Well, the compressors for this car have two major componets that you can easily take apart: the power block where the HV plugs in; and the compressor block where the a/c lines attach. It turns out you can unbolt the compressor, remove the power block without opening the refrigerant system, attach the old power block from your failed compressor, creating a frankenstein compressor from 2 different model years of the same compressor that failed, rebolt it, and try again.

I then turned the i3 on, and the compressor kicked on trying to suck freon, which was still attached from the previous attempt. I fed it approximately the rightish amount of r134a as indicated by a sticker somewhere, and the a/c has been perfect since. I live in daily fear of it failing again, have stress dreams about it, and carefully listen to every noise it makes everytime my wife drives away in it. But I feel like I accomplished something worth $4000 for about $300.

I took this slow with lots of breaks to think about what I was going to screw up, and it was probably two 8 hour days of work. To do this yourself, you should have some experience with charging a/c systems as you will likely be playing roulette with a $1000 compressor. You should probably also replace the condesor and expansion valves and stuff as indicated by the kits on ebay....but meh, that looked like way to much work.

If you need any clarification/pictures let me know and I will attempt to provide it.
It will be nice to provide pictures when you have time
 
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