2013-2015 Nissan Leaf Owners Complain Of Brake Problems

[SSi3]

http://www.thecarconnection.com/new...blems-canada-launches-investigation#src=10065

 

[websterize]

The small-overlap result is the Le@f's (and three others') achilles heel. Consumer Reports dropped the Le@f from its recommended list after the IIHS report came out last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgxpGCib0PY

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v/nissan/leaf

Looking forward to seeing how the i3 compares in the IIHS test.

 

[cove3]

Interesting link. Thanks. With the very short front, it's hard to see the i3 doing well on front end test, but the same would be true for the Bolt

Ron

 

[I33t]

It will be interesting to see.

Despite the short front, the i3 did well in the Euro NCAP front end crash test. Severe side pole test was it's weaker test. I'm guessing the lower vehicle mass and carbon construction helped.

 

[peteinlongbeach]

It will be interesting to see.

Despite the short front, the i3 did well in the Euro NCAP front end crash test. Severe side pole test was it's weaker test. I'm guessing the lower vehicle mass and carbon construction helped.

I don't understand your statement about the side pole test. It's the best result of any car I've ever seen. Virtually no seat displacement, and the side structures just bend a bit and bounce back. Sheet metal can't do that. Amazing...

Starting at about :53

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veAQjpV3rIM

 

[I33t]

It will be interesting to see.

Despite the short front, the i3 did well in the Euro NCAP front end crash test. Severe side pole test was it's weaker test. I'm guessing the lower vehicle mass and carbon construction helped.

I don't understand your statement about the side pole test. It's the best result of any car I've ever seen. Virtually no seat displacement, and the side structures just bend a bit and bounce back. Sheet metal can't do that. Amazing...

Starting at about :53

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veAQjpV3rIM

That's not the side pole test at :53 The side pole test starts at about 1:27

http://www.euroncap.com/en/results/bmw/i3/8863

In the more severe side pole impact, dummy readings of rib compression indicated that protection of the chest was weak.

Nissan Leaf: http://www.euroncap.com/en/results/nissan/leaf/10939

In the more severe side pole impact, protection of most body regions was good and that of the chest was adequate.

The i3 is generally very good. If the safety electronics was standard across the range is would probably have managed 5 stars.

 

[peteinlongbeach]

The i3 is generally very good. If the safety electronics was standard across the range is would probably have managed 5 stars.

Are you saying that safety features in the i3 are not consistent throughout the model range? Where is this documented? It doesn't seem likely, since they must all meet the same safety standards.

My understanding is the 4 star rating was based on the pedestrian impact test.

 

[I33t]

The i3 is generally very good. If the safety electronics was standard across the range is would probably have managed 5 stars.

Are you saying that safety features in the i3 are not consistent throughout the model range? Where is this documented? It doesn't seem likely, since they must all meet the same safety standards.

My understanding is the 4 star rating was based on the pedestrian impact test.

Some driver warning features and auto emergency brake application are dependant on the front camera which is an option, not standard. BMW also left out rear seat belt warning on all models.

The 4 star rating is based on the results of all the tests. AFAIK the car came close to 5 stars and a marginal improvement in one or two areas would have brought it over the line. Not sure how much more could be done about pedestrian safety because of the blunt front end.

 

[peteinlongbeach]

Some driver warning features and auto emergency brake application are dependant on the front camera which is an option, not standard. BMW also left out rear seat belt warning on all models.

Those features are more accessories, they are not required under DOT standards, they have nothing to do with DOT / NHTSA testing and Federal compliance, and therefor have no effect on the government crash safety rating.

 

[I33t]

Some driver warning features and auto emergency brake application are dependant on the front camera which is an option, not standard. BMW also left out rear seat belt warning on all models.

Those features are more accessories, they are not required under DOT standards, they have nothing to do with DOT / NHTSA testing and Federal compliance, and therefor have no effect on the government crash safety rating.

In case you didn't notice, the current available testing of the i3 is via EuroNCAP. What the US DOT does or does not require has nothing to do with the results. Standard safety features on a vehicle certainly do effect the ratings regardless of whether they are 'required' by the US DOT.

I don't regard active safety features like autonomous braking as accessories. The sooner they are standard features across all vehicles, the better IMHO. I'm an alert driver, one of the things I regularly notice in other road users is the amount of distractions they are willing to accept. We need more active safety features in our vehicles to counter these obsessions.